[Shacs] Java Triva

Thu Apr 19 08:50:35 CDT 2007

Dr McGuire-
By following the impulse to throw a jab and miss a teaching moment, you've
left me where I began.  Is that how they do it at TAMU?  :)  Having studied
it more closely, I stand corrected: 0-F is just 4bits, 00-FF is 8bits = 1
byte.

If a slip like this warrants recalling my degree, would you instead consider
me retaking Cooper's digital architecture class?  That was among my top fav
classes (with a top prof, I might add), and that class's book was the only
one I wish someone hadn't stolen. Similar to how consciousness rides atop
neurons and chemicals, it's still fascinating how applications and
information recall ride atop solid state digital architectures.

With the degree recall program, do you get set back to core classes or 0hrs
in your major?  What if you changed majors?  Does it wipe your record clean
100%?

On 4/16/07, David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu> wrote:
>
>  Erick,
> It is very nice to hear from you!  I am also glad you have retained your
> ability to recognize and evaluate the worth of rabble rouser's.  If only all
> students (current and former) met your high standards.  The degree recall
> program does indeed exist though we try to limit knowledge of its
> application.
>
> Dr. B
>
> ekeown at swbell.net wrote:
>
>  Dr. Burris,
>
>     A lot of people have heard the threat of the degree recall plan for a
> long time.  Some people, such as Bronius but not me, of course, are under
> the belief that such an action is just an empty threat.  I've heard phrases
> like "wuss", "gun shy", and "full of hot air" uttered from the mouths of
> those non-believers who think you would never execute the degree recall plan
> on any former student.  Worse even, is the whispers of a certain cross
> section of students, both former and current, who seem to believe that not
> only would you NEVER see the degree recall plan through, but in fact the
> degree recall plan does not even exist and is only a joke you've chosen to
> tease the alumni with throughout the years.  Perhaps it would be just of you
> to implement such an action to show that you still are as ruthless, and
> iron-fisted as ever, and not some kind hearted, well liked, playful
> professor that some of the students and alumni have claimed you are.
> Bronius would serve as an excellent example for those who would be so
> ignorant as to doubt your sinister nature.
>
> Eric
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu> <csc_dsb at shsu.edu>
> To: mcguire at shsu.edu
> Cc: shacs at shsu.edu
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:04:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
>
> It has been too long since we exercised the degree recall procedure.  We
> should really take advantage of this opportunity before we forget the
> process completely.  It would be best not to fiddle around forever!  :)
>
> Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:
>
> Dr. B,
>
> I think we should retroactively revoke Mr. Motekaitis' degree until he
> does some remedial work, and learns the difference between a nybble and a
> byte.
>
> Agreed?
>
> TJM
>
> Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
>
> I don't mean to bring this up again (just read it and saw the datestamp of
> Apr 7, over a week old), but I hope you two have made up since then..  :O
>
> Another, less discussed fact, is that that of the fifth byte of any Java
> code: it always falls in the range of 00-FF.
>
> Ok, I'm potentially revealing a weakness in my practice (not my education,
> mind you, just a "man it's been a long time since I dealt in byte-code"),
> but isn't a byte = 8bits = 0-F, not 00-FF?  Is this a difference in
> architecture that dictates this discrepancy?  If so, could Burris' original
> post have said, "Depending on architecture, the first 4 to 8 bytes is.."
>
> -bronius
>
>
> On 4/7/07, Dr. Tim McGuire <csc_tjm at shsu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > The first four bytes in the header for Java class files are CA FE BA
> > BE
> > > in hexadecimal. There is an interesting connection between the café
> > St.
> > > Michael's Alley and the group the Grateful Dead. Note the first four
> > > bytes spell "Café Babe." If you need help making the connection, speak
> > > to Mr. Boyle.
> >
> > Glad to see, Dr. B., that you are actually progressing in your feeble
> > attempts at making computer science relevant.  First of all, you appropriate
> > my void clint_eastwood(void); example.  (Your modifications, unfortunately,
> > diminished its value.)  And now you're finally bringing up this example --
> > I've had my CS272 students convert the first four bytes of a Java class file
> > into hex as an exercise for several years now (supplementing the previous
> > exercise of converting 12, 5655, 2550276, 76545336, 3726755 from octal into
> > hexadecimal.)
> >
> > Welcome to the 21st century....  ;)
> >
> >
> > TJM
> >
> >
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