[Shacs] Java Triva

Dr. Tim McGuire mcguire at shsu.edu
Thu Apr 19 11:52:54 CDT 2007


Dr Cooper,  

Fortunately, for Dr. Burris' sake, both the institution formerly known 
as Southwest Texas and Texas A&M University have the same policy that we 
do.  However, further research shows that neither the University of 
London nor the University of Missouri-Columbia have that clause.  Be 
forewarned.

TJM

Peter Cooper wrote:

> Bronius,
>
> You misunderstand the nature of the degree recall program.   There are 
> some very interesting clauses in it.
> One of them specifically states that degree recalls are not applicable 
> for alumni and faculty making regular donation to the Computer Science 
> Scholarship Endowment fund.  There is a nasty vicious rumor, 
> NOT spread by Dr. McGuire, that Dr. Burris makes regular contributions 
> for that very reason.
>
> PAC
>
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
>
>> Dr McGuire-
>> By following the impulse to throw a jab and miss a teaching moment, 
>> you've left me where I began.  Is that how they do it at TAMU?  :)  
>> Having studied it more closely, I stand corrected: 0-F is just 4bits, 
>> 00-FF is 8bits = 1 byte.
>>
>> If a slip like this warrants recalling my degree, would you instead 
>> consider me retaking Cooper's digital architecture class?  That was 
>> among my top fav classes (with a top prof, I might add), and that 
>> class's book was the only one I wish someone hadn't stolen. Similar 
>> to how consciousness rides atop neurons and chemicals, it's still 
>> fascinating how applications and information recall ride atop solid 
>> state digital architectures.
>>
>> With the degree recall program, do you get set back to core classes 
>> or 0hrs in your major?  What if you changed majors?  Does it wipe 
>> your record clean 100%?
>>
>> On 4/16/07, David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu <mailto:csc_dsb at shsu.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>     Erick,
>>     It is very nice to hear from you!  I am also glad you have
>>     retained your ability to recognize and evaluate the worth of
>>     rabble rouser's.  If only all students (current and former) met
>>     your high standards.  The degree recall program does indeed exist
>>     though we try to limit knowledge of its application.
>>
>>     Dr. B
>>
>>
>>     ekeown at swbell.net <mailto:ekeown at swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>>     Dr. Burris,
>>>
>>>         A lot of people have heard the threat of the degree recall
>>>     plan for a long time.  Some people, such as Bronius but not me,
>>>     of course, are under the belief that such an action is just an
>>>     empty threat.  I've heard phrases like "wuss", "gun shy", and
>>>     "full of hot air" uttered from the mouths of those non-believers
>>>     who think you would never execute the degree recall plan on any
>>>     former student.  Worse even, is the whispers of a certain cross
>>>     section of students, both former and current, who seem to
>>>     believe that not only would you NEVER see the degree recall plan
>>>     through, but in fact the degree recall plan does not even exist
>>>     and is only a joke you've chosen to tease the alumni with
>>>     throughout the years.  Perhaps it would be just of you to
>>>     implement such an action to show that you still are as ruthless,
>>>     and iron-fisted as ever, and not some kind hearted, well liked,
>>>     playful professor that some of the students and alumni have
>>>     claimed you are.  Bronius would serve as an excellent example
>>>     for those who would be so ignorant as to doubt your sinister nature.
>>>
>>>     Eric
>>>
>>>     ----- Original Message ----
>>>     From: David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu> <mailto:csc_dsb at shsu.edu>
>>>     To: mcguire at shsu.edu <mailto:mcguire at shsu.edu>
>>>     Cc: shacs at shsu.edu <mailto:shacs at shsu.edu>
>>>     Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:04:26 PM
>>>     Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
>>>
>>>     It has been too long since we exercised the degree recall
>>>     procedure.  We should really take advantage of this opportunity
>>>     before we forget the process completely.  It would be best not
>>>     to fiddle around forever!  :)
>>>
>>>     Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Dr. B,
>>>>
>>>>     I think we should retroactively revoke Mr. Motekaitis' degree
>>>>     until he does some remedial work, and learns the difference
>>>>     between a nybble and a byte.
>>>>
>>>>     Agreed?
>>>>
>>>>     TJM
>>>>
>>>>     Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     I don't mean to bring this up again (just read it and saw the
>>>>>     datestamp of Apr 7, over a week old), but I hope you two have
>>>>>     made up since then..  :O
>>>>>
>>>>>     Another, less discussed fact, is that that of the fifth byte
>>>>>     of any Java code: it always falls in the range of 00-FF.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Ok, I'm potentially revealing a weakness in my practice (not
>>>>>     my education, mind you, just a "man it's been a long time
>>>>>     since I dealt in byte-code"), but isn't a byte = 8bits = 0-F,
>>>>>     not 00-FF?  Is this a difference in architecture that dictates
>>>>>     this discrepancy?  If so, could Burris' original post have
>>>>>     said, "Depending on architecture, the first 4 to 8 bytes is.."
>>>>>
>>>>>     -bronius
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 4/7/07, Dr. Tim McGuire <csc_tjm at shsu.edu
>>>>>     <mailto:csc_tjm at shsu.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The first four bytes in the header for Java class files
>>>>>         are CA FE BA BE
>>>>>> in hexadecimal. There is an interesting connection
>>>>>         between the café St.
>>>>>> Michael's Alley and the group the Grateful Dead. Note the
>>>>>         first four
>>>>>> bytes spell "Café Babe." If you need help making the
>>>>>         connection, speak
>>>>>> to Mr. Boyle.
>>>>>
>>>>>         Glad to see, Dr. B., that you are actually progressing in
>>>>>         your feeble attempts at making computer science relevant. 
>>>>>         First of all, you appropriate my void
>>>>>         clint_eastwood(void); example.  (Your modifications,
>>>>>         unfortunately, diminished its value.)  And now you're
>>>>>         finally bringing up this example -- I've had my CS272
>>>>>         students convert the first four bytes of a Java class file
>>>>>         into hex as an exercise for several years now
>>>>>         (supplementing the previous exercise of converting 12,
>>>>>         5655, 2550276, 76545336, 3726755 from octal into hexadecimal.)
>>>>>
>>>>>         Welcome to the 21st century....  ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         TJM
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>         Department of Computer Science
>>>>>         Sam Houston State University
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>>Computer Science
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Timothy J. McGuire, Ph.D.
Department of Computer Science
Sam Houston State University
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