[Shacs] Java Triva

Peter Cooper cooper at shsu.edu
Thu Apr 19 12:34:23 CDT 2007


I believe that the University of London actually collects recalled  
degrees from other institutions and randomly distributes them to  
local indigents.

On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:

> Dr Cooper,
>
> Fortunately, for Dr. Burris' sake, both the institution formerly  
> known as Southwest Texas and Texas A&M University have the same  
> policy that we do.  However, further research shows that neither  
> the University of London nor the University of Missouri-Columbia  
> have that clause.  Be forewarned.
>
> TJM
>
> Peter Cooper wrote:
>> Bronius,
>>
>> You misunderstand the nature of the degree recall program.   There  
>> are some very interesting clauses in it.
>> One of them specifically states that degree recalls are not  
>> applicable for alumni and faculty making regular donation to the  
>> Computer Science Scholarship Endowment fund.  There is a nasty  
>> vicious rumor, NOT spread by Dr. McGuire, that Dr. Burris makes  
>> regular contributions for that very reason.
>>
>> PAC
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
>>
>>> Dr McGuire-
>>> By following the impulse to throw a jab and miss a teaching  
>>> moment, you've left me where I began.  Is that how they do it at  
>>> TAMU?  :)  Having studied it more closely, I stand corrected: 0-F  
>>> is just 4bits, 00-FF is 8bits = 1 byte.
>>>
>>> If a slip like this warrants recalling my degree, would you  
>>> instead consider me retaking Cooper's digital architecture  
>>> class?  That was among my top fav classes (with a top prof, I  
>>> might add), and that class's book was the only one I wish someone  
>>> hadn't stolen. Similar to how consciousness rides atop neurons  
>>> and chemicals, it's still fascinating how applications and  
>>> information recall ride atop solid state digital architectures.
>>>
>>> With the degree recall program, do you get set back to core  
>>> classes or 0hrs in your major?  What if you changed majors?  Does  
>>> it wipe your record clean 100%?
>>>
>>> On 4/16/07, David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu> wrote:
>>> Erick,
>>> It is very nice to hear from you!  I am also glad you have  
>>> retained your ability to recognize and evaluate the worth of  
>>> rabble rouser's.  If only all students (current and former) met  
>>> your high standards.  The degree recall program does indeed exist  
>>> though we try to limit knowledge of its application.
>>>
>>> Dr. B
>>>
>>>
>>> ekeown at swbell.net wrote:
>>>> Dr. Burris,
>>>>
>>>>     A lot of people have heard the threat of the degree recall  
>>>> plan for a long time.  Some people, such as Bronius but not me,  
>>>> of course, are under the belief that such an action is just an  
>>>> empty threat.  I've heard phrases like "wuss", "gun shy", and  
>>>> "full of hot air" uttered from the mouths of those non-believers  
>>>> who think you would never execute the degree recall plan on any  
>>>> former student.  Worse even, is the whispers of a certain cross  
>>>> section of students, both former and current, who seem to  
>>>> believe that not only would you NEVER see the degree recall plan  
>>>> through, but in fact the degree recall plan does not even exist  
>>>> and is only a joke you've chosen to tease the alumni with  
>>>> throughout the years.  Perhaps it would be just of you to  
>>>> implement such an action to show that you still are as ruthless,  
>>>> and iron-fisted as ever, and not some kind hearted, well liked,  
>>>> playful professor that some of the students and alumni have  
>>>> claimed you are.  Bronius would serve as an excellent example  
>>>> for those who would be so ignorant as to doubt your sinister  
>>>> nature.
>>>>
>>>> Eric
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu>
>>>> To: mcguire at shsu.edu
>>>> Cc: shacs at shsu.edu
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:04:26 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
>>>>
>>>> It has been too long since we exercised the degree recall  
>>>> procedure.  We should really take advantage of this opportunity  
>>>> before we forget the process completely.  It would be best not  
>>>> to fiddle around forever!  :)
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:
>>>>> Dr. B,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think we should retroactively revoke Mr. Motekaitis' degree  
>>>>> until he does some remedial work, and learns the difference  
>>>>> between a nybble and a byte.
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed?
>>>>>
>>>>> TJM
>>>>>
>>>>> Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
>>>>>> I don't mean to bring this up again (just read it and saw the  
>>>>>> datestamp of Apr 7, over a week old), but I hope you two have  
>>>>>> made up since then..  :O
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another, less discussed fact, is that that of the fifth byte  
>>>>>> of any Java code: it always falls in the range of 00-FF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, I'm potentially revealing a weakness in my practice (not  
>>>>>> my education, mind you, just a "man it's been a long time  
>>>>>> since I dealt in byte-code"), but isn't a byte = 8bits = 0-F,  
>>>>>> not 00-FF?  Is this a difference in architecture that dictates  
>>>>>> this discrepancy?  If so, could Burris' original post have  
>>>>>> said, "Depending on architecture, the first 4 to 8 bytes is.."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -bronius
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/7/07, Dr. Tim McGuire <csc_tjm at shsu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > The first four bytes in the header for Java class files are  
>>>>>> CA FE BA BE
>>>>>> > in hexadecimal. There is an interesting connection between  
>>>>>> the café St.
>>>>>> > Michael's Alley and the group the Grateful Dead. Note the  
>>>>>> first four
>>>>>> > bytes spell "Café Babe." If you need help making the  
>>>>>> connection, speak
>>>>>> > to Mr. Boyle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad to see, Dr. B., that you are actually progressing in your  
>>>>>> feeble attempts at making computer science relevant.  First of  
>>>>>> all, you appropriate my void clint_eastwood(void); example.   
>>>>>> (Your modifications, unfortunately, diminished its value.)   
>>>>>> And now you're finally bringing up this example -- I've had my  
>>>>>> CS272 students convert the first four bytes of a Java class  
>>>>>> file into hex as an exercise for several years now  
>>>>>> (supplementing the previous exercise of converting 12, 5655,  
>>>>>> 2550276, 76545336, 3726755 from octal into hexadecimal.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome to the 21st century....  ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TJM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> Timothy J. McGuire, Ph.D.
>>>>>> Department of Computer Science
>>>>>> Sam Houston State University
>>>>>> Huntsville, Texas 77341-2090
>>>>>> mcguire at shsu.edu
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