[Shacs] Java Triva

arg007 at shsu.edu arg007 at shsu.edu
Fri Apr 20 09:07:37 CDT 2007


What about former military, Ie Vets, do they apply to this exemption as well?


> I notice that no one has made mention of the military clause that exempts
> anyone serving in an active status from EVER having to worry about the
> degree recall program.  I remember reading about it in the exemptions
> appendix.   J
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> Kirk
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> From: shacs-bounces at shsu.edu on behalf of Peter Cooper
> Sent: Thu 4/19/2007 12:34 PM
> To: mcguire at shsu.edu
> Cc: shacs at shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
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> I believe that the University of London actually collects recalled degrees
> from other institutions and randomly distributes them to local indigents.
>
> On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:
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> 	Dr Cooper,
>
> 	Fortunately, for Dr. Burris' sake, both the institution formerly known as
> Southwest Texas and Texas A&M University have the same policy that we do.
>  However, further research shows that neither the University of London
> nor the University of Missouri-Columbia have that clause.  Be forewarned.
>
> 	TJM
>
> 	Peter Cooper wrote:
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> 		Bronius,
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> 		You misunderstand the nature of the degree recall program.   There are
> some very interesting clauses in it.
> 		One of them specifically states that degree recalls are not applicable
> for alumni and faculty making regular donation to the Computer Science
> Scholarship Endowment fund.  There is a nasty vicious rumor, NOT spread
> by Dr. McGuire, that Dr. Burris makes regular contributions for that
> very reason.
>
> 		PAC
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> 		On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
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> 			Dr McGuire-
> 			By following the impulse to throw a jab and miss a teaching moment,
> you've left me where I began.  Is that how they do it at TAMU?  :)
> Having studied it more closely, I stand corrected: 0-F is just 4bits,
> 00-FF is 8bits = 1 byte.
>
> 			If a slip like this warrants recalling my degree, would you instead
> consider me retaking Cooper's digital architecture class?  That was
> among my top fav classes (with a top prof, I might add), and that
> class's book was the only one I wish someone hadn't stolen. Similar to
> how consciousness rides atop neurons and chemicals, it's still
> fascinating how applications and information recall ride atop solid
> state digital architectures.
>
> 			With the degree recall program, do you get set back to core classes or
> 0hrs in your major?  What if you changed majors?  Does it wipe your
> record clean 100%?
>
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> 			On 4/16/07, David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu> wrote:
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> 				Erick,
> 				It is very nice to hear from you!  I am also glad you have retained
> your ability to recognize and evaluate the worth of rabble rouser's.
> If only all students (current and former) met your high standards.
> The degree recall program does indeed exist though we try to limit
> knowledge of its application.
>
> 				Dr. B
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> 				ekeown at swbell.net wrote:
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> 					Dr. Burris,
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> 					    A lot of people have heard the threat of the degree recall plan
> for a long time.  Some people, such as Bronius but not me, of
> course, are under the belief that such an action is just an empty
> threat.  I've heard phrases like "wuss", "gun shy", and "full of
> hot air" uttered from the mouths of those non-believers who think
> you would never execute the degree recall plan on any former
> student.  Worse even, is the whispers of a certain cross section
> of students, both former and current, who seem to believe that
> not only would you NEVER see the degree recall plan through, but
> in fact the degree recall plan does not even exist and is only a
> joke you've chosen to tease the alumni with throughout the years.
>  Perhaps it would be just of you to implement such an action to
> show that you still are as ruthless, and iron-fisted as ever, and
> not some kind hearted, well liked, playful professor that some of
> the students and alumni have claimed you are.  Bronius would
> serve as an excellent example for those who would be so ignorant
> as to doubt your sinister nature.
>
> 					Eric
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>
> 					----- Original Message ----
> 					From: David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu> <mailto:csc_dsb at shsu.edu>
> 					To: mcguire at shsu.edu
> 					Cc: shacs at shsu.edu
> 					Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:04:26 PM
> 					Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
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> 					It has been too long since we exercised the degree recall procedure.
> We should really take advantage of this opportunity before we forget
> the process completely.  It would be best not to fiddle around
> forever!  :)
>
> 					Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:
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> 					Dr. B,
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> 					I think we should retroactively revoke Mr. Motekaitis' degree until
> he does some remedial work, and learns the difference between a
> nybble and a byte.
>
> 					Agreed?
>
> 					TJM
>
> 					Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
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> 					I don't mean to bring this up again (just read it and saw the
> datestamp of Apr 7, over a week old), but I hope you two have made up
> since then..  :O
>
> 					Another, less discussed fact, is that that of the fifth byte of any
> Java code: it always falls in the range of 00-FF.
>
> 					Ok, I'm potentially revealing a weakness in my practice (not my
> education, mind you, just a "man it's been a long time since I dealt
> in byte-code"), but isn't a byte = 8bits = 0-F, not 00-FF?  Is this a
> difference in architecture that dictates this discrepancy?  If so,
> could Burris' original post have said, "Depending on architecture,
> the first 4 to 8 bytes is.."
>
> 					-bronius
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> 					On 4/7/07, Dr. Tim McGuire <csc_tjm at shsu.edu> wrote:
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> 					> The first four bytes in the header for Java class files are CA FE
> BA BE
> 					> in hexadecimal. There is an interesting connection between the café
> St.
> 					> Michael's Alley and the group the Grateful Dead. Note the first
> four
> 					> bytes spell "Café Babe." If you need help making the connection,
> speak
> 					> to Mr. Boyle.
>
> 					Glad to see, Dr. B., that you are actually progressing in your feeble
> attempts at making computer science relevant.  First of all, you
> appropriate my void clint_eastwood(void); example.  (Your
> modifications, unfortunately, diminished its value.)  And now you're
> finally bringing up this example -- I've had my CS272 students
> convert the first four bytes of a Java class file into hex as an
> exercise for several years now (supplementing the previous exercise
> of converting 12, 5655, 2550276, 76545336, 3726755 from octal into
> hexadecimal.)
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> 					Welcome to the 21st century....  ;)
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> 					TJM
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