[Shacs] Java Triva
Peter Cooper
cooper at shsu.edu
Fri Apr 20 09:55:41 CDT 2007
You need to read that appendix carefully.
It is true that military and former military are exempt from degree
recall, unless they have been involved in helicopter accidents.
Note also that the degree recall override clause allows for current
and former suspected PUG members to have summary justice dispensed
without appeal.
(Most of them are without any appeal anyway).
PAC
On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:07 AM, arg007 at shsu.edu wrote:
> What about former military, Ie Vets, do they apply to this
> exemption as well?
>
>
>> I notice that no one has made mention of the military clause that
>> exempts
>> anyone serving in an active status from EVER having to worry about
>> the
>> degree recall program. I remember reading about it in the exemptions
>> appendix. J
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Kirk
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: shacs-bounces at shsu.edu on behalf of Peter Cooper
>> Sent: Thu 4/19/2007 12:34 PM
>> To: mcguire at shsu.edu
>> Cc: shacs at shsu.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
>>
>>
>> I believe that the University of London actually collects recalled
>> degrees
>> from other institutions and randomly distributes them to local
>> indigents.
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dr Cooper,
>>
>> Fortunately, for Dr. Burris' sake, both the institution formerly
>> known as
>> Southwest Texas and Texas A&M University have the same policy that
>> we do.
>> However, further research shows that neither the University of
>> London
>> nor the University of Missouri-Columbia have that clause. Be
>> forewarned.
>>
>> TJM
>>
>> Peter Cooper wrote:
>>
>>
>> Bronius,
>>
>> You misunderstand the nature of the degree recall program.
>> There are
>> some very interesting clauses in it.
>> One of them specifically states that degree recalls are not
>> applicable
>> for alumni and faculty making regular donation to the Computer
>> Science
>> Scholarship Endowment fund. There is a nasty vicious rumor, NOT
>> spread
>> by Dr. McGuire, that Dr. Burris makes regular contributions for that
>> very reason.
>>
>> PAC
>>
>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dr McGuire-
>> By following the impulse to throw a jab and miss a teaching
>> moment,
>> you've left me where I began. Is that how they do it at TAMU? :)
>> Having studied it more closely, I stand corrected: 0-F is just 4bits,
>> 00-FF is 8bits = 1 byte.
>>
>> If a slip like this warrants recalling my degree, would you
>> instead
>> consider me retaking Cooper's digital architecture class? That was
>> among my top fav classes (with a top prof, I might add), and that
>> class's book was the only one I wish someone hadn't stolen.
>> Similar to
>> how consciousness rides atop neurons and chemicals, it's still
>> fascinating how applications and information recall ride atop solid
>> state digital architectures.
>>
>> With the degree recall program, do you get set back to core
>> classes or
>> 0hrs in your major? What if you changed majors? Does it wipe your
>> record clean 100%?
>>
>>
>> On 4/16/07, David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Erick,
>> It is very nice to hear from you! I am also glad you have
>> retained
>> your ability to recognize and evaluate the worth of rabble rouser's.
>> If only all students (current and former) met your high standards.
>> The degree recall program does indeed exist though we try to limit
>> knowledge of its application.
>>
>> Dr. B
>>
>>
>> ekeown at swbell.net wrote:
>>
>> Dr. Burris,
>>
>> A lot of people have heard the threat of the degree
>> recall plan
>> for a long time. Some people, such as Bronius but not me, of
>> course, are under the belief that such an action is just an empty
>> threat. I've heard phrases like "wuss", "gun shy", and "full of
>> hot air" uttered from the mouths of those non-believers who think
>> you would never execute the degree recall plan on any former
>> student. Worse even, is the whispers of a certain cross section
>> of students, both former and current, who seem to believe that
>> not only would you NEVER see the degree recall plan through, but
>> in fact the degree recall plan does not even exist and is only a
>> joke you've chosen to tease the alumni with throughout the years.
>> Perhaps it would be just of you to implement such an action to
>> show that you still are as ruthless, and iron-fisted as ever, and
>> not some kind hearted, well liked, playful professor that some of
>> the students and alumni have claimed you are. Bronius would
>> serve as an excellent example for those who would be so ignorant
>> as to doubt your sinister nature.
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu> <mailto:csc_dsb at shsu.edu>
>> To: mcguire at shsu.edu
>> Cc: shacs at shsu.edu
>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:04:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
>>
>> It has been too long since we exercised the degree recall
>> procedure.
>> We should really take advantage of this opportunity before we forget
>> the process completely. It would be best not to fiddle around
>> forever! :)
>>
>> Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:
>>
>> Dr. B,
>>
>> I think we should retroactively revoke Mr. Motekaitis' degree
>> until
>> he does some remedial work, and learns the difference between a
>> nybble and a byte.
>>
>> Agreed?
>>
>> TJM
>>
>> Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't mean to bring this up again (just read it and saw the
>> datestamp of Apr 7, over a week old), but I hope you two have made up
>> since then.. :O
>>
>> Another, less discussed fact, is that that of the fifth byte
>> of any
>> Java code: it always falls in the range of 00-FF.
>>
>> Ok, I'm potentially revealing a weakness in my practice (not my
>> education, mind you, just a "man it's been a long time since I dealt
>> in byte-code"), but isn't a byte = 8bits = 0-F, not 00-FF? Is this a
>> difference in architecture that dictates this discrepancy? If so,
>> could Burris' original post have said, "Depending on architecture,
>> the first 4 to 8 bytes is.."
>>
>> -bronius
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/7/07, Dr. Tim McGuire <csc_tjm at shsu.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > The first four bytes in the header for Java class files are
>> CA FE
>> BA BE
>> > in hexadecimal. There is an interesting connection between
>> the café
>> St.
>> > Michael's Alley and the group the Grateful Dead. Note the
>> first
>> four
>> > bytes spell "Café Babe." If you need help making the
>> connection,
>> speak
>> > to Mr. Boyle.
>>
>> Glad to see, Dr. B., that you are actually progressing in
>> your feeble
>> attempts at making computer science relevant. First of all, you
>> appropriate my void clint_eastwood(void); example. (Your
>> modifications, unfortunately, diminished its value.) And now you're
>> finally bringing up this example -- I've had my CS272 students
>> convert the first four bytes of a Java class file into hex as an
>> exercise for several years now (supplementing the previous exercise
>> of converting 12, 5655, 2550276, 76545336, 3726755 from octal into
>> hexadecimal.)
>>
>> Welcome to the 21st century.... ;)
>>
>>
>> TJM
>>
>>
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