[Shacs] Java Triva
Peter Cooper
cooper at shsu.edu
Fri Apr 20 11:27:38 CDT 2007
Note the word SUSPECTED
On Apr 20, 2007, at 10:38 AM, BURNS, KIRK A wrote:
> There is a mention about helicopter accidents in the clause.
> However, the reference specifies that the said person must have
> been at the controls at the time and responsible for the safe
> operation of said aircraft. Since I was neither touching the
> controls nor the person responsible for safe operations at the
> time......I'm still good. And it can't be proved that I have ever
> been part of any covert PUG operations. So....again I'm good. :D
>
>
>
> Kirk Burns
> CW3, USARNG
> TacOps/IP
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Peter Cooper [mailto:cooper at shsu.edu]
> Sent: Fri 4/20/2007 9:55 AM
> To: GONZALES, ALEXANDER REY
> Cc: BURNS, KIRK A; shacs at shsu.edu
> Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
>
>
>
> You need to read that appendix carefully.
> It is true that military and former military are exempt from degree
> recall, unless they have been involved in helicopter accidents.
> Note also that the degree recall override clause allows for current
> and former suspected PUG members to have summary justice dispensed
> without appeal.
> (Most of them are without any appeal anyway).
>
> PAC
>
> On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:07 AM, arg007 at shsu.edu wrote:
>
>> What about former military, Ie Vets, do they apply to this
>> exemption as well?
>>
>>
>>> I notice that no one has made mention of the military clause that
>>> exempts
>>> anyone serving in an active status from EVER having to worry about
>>> the
>>> degree recall program. I remember reading about it in the
>>> exemptions
>>> appendix. J
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kirk
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> From: shacs-bounces at shsu.edu on behalf of Peter Cooper
>>> Sent: Thu 4/19/2007 12:34 PM
>>> To: mcguire at shsu.edu
>>> Cc: shacs at shsu.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
>>>
>>>
>>> I believe that the University of London actually collects recalled
>>> degrees
>>> from other institutions and randomly distributes them to local
>>> indigents.
>>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 11:52 AM, Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Cooper,
>>>
>>> Fortunately, for Dr. Burris' sake, both the institution
>>> formerly
>>> known as
>>> Southwest Texas and Texas A&M University have the same policy that
>>> we do.
>>> However, further research shows that neither the University of
>>> London
>>> nor the University of Missouri-Columbia have that clause. Be
>>> forewarned.
>>>
>>> TJM
>>>
>>> Peter Cooper wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Bronius,
>>>
>>> You misunderstand the nature of the degree recall
>>> program.
>>> There are
>>> some very interesting clauses in it.
>>> One of them specifically states that degree recalls
>>> are not
>>> applicable
>>> for alumni and faculty making regular donation to the Computer
>>> Science
>>> Scholarship Endowment fund. There is a nasty vicious rumor, NOT
>>> spread
>>> by Dr. McGuire, that Dr. Burris makes regular contributions for that
>>> very reason.
>>>
>>> PAC
>>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr McGuire-
>>> By following the impulse to throw a jab and
>>> miss a teaching
>>> moment,
>>> you've left me where I began. Is that how they do it at TAMU? :)
>>> Having studied it more closely, I stand corrected: 0-F is just
>>> 4bits,
>>> 00-FF is 8bits = 1 byte.
>>>
>>> If a slip like this warrants recalling my
>>> degree, would you
>>> instead
>>> consider me retaking Cooper's digital architecture class? That was
>>> among my top fav classes (with a top prof, I might add), and that
>>> class's book was the only one I wish someone hadn't stolen.
>>> Similar to
>>> how consciousness rides atop neurons and chemicals, it's still
>>> fascinating how applications and information recall ride atop solid
>>> state digital architectures.
>>>
>>> With the degree recall program, do you get
>>> set back to core
>>> classes or
>>> 0hrs in your major? What if you changed majors? Does it wipe your
>>> record clean 100%?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/16/07, David Burris <csc_dsb at shsu.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Erick,
>>> It is very nice to hear from you! I
>>> am also glad you have
>>> retained
>>> your ability to recognize and evaluate the worth of rabble rouser's.
>>> If only all students (current and former) met your high standards.
>>> The degree recall program does indeed exist though we try to limit
>>> knowledge of its application.
>>>
>>> Dr. B
>>>
>>>
>>> ekeown at swbell.net wrote:
>>>
>>> Dr. Burris,
>>>
>>> A lot of people have
>>> heard the threat of the degree
>>> recall plan
>>> for a long time. Some people, such as Bronius but not me, of
>>> course, are under the belief that such an action is just an empty
>>> threat. I've heard phrases like "wuss", "gun shy", and "full of
>>> hot air" uttered from the mouths of those non-believers who think
>>> you would never execute the degree recall plan on any former
>>> student. Worse even, is the whispers of a certain cross section
>>> of students, both former and current, who seem to believe that
>>> not only would you NEVER see the degree recall plan through, but
>>> in fact the degree recall plan does not even exist and is only a
>>> joke you've chosen to tease the alumni with throughout the years.
>>> Perhaps it would be just of you to implement such an action to
>>> show that you still are as ruthless, and iron-fisted as ever, and
>>> not some kind hearted, well liked, playful professor that some of
>>> the students and alumni have claimed you are. Bronius would
>>> serve as an excellent example for those who would be so ignorant
>>> as to doubt your sinister nature.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: David Burris
>>> <csc_dsb at shsu.edu> <mailto:csc_dsb at shsu.edu>
>>> To: mcguire at shsu.edu
>>> Cc: shacs at shsu.edu
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007
>>> 4:04:26 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Shacs] Java Triva
>>>
>>> It has been too long since
>>> we exercised the degree recall
>>> procedure.
>>> We should really take advantage of this opportunity before we forget
>>> the process completely. It would be best not to fiddle around
>>> forever! :)
>>>
>>> Dr. Tim McGuire wrote:
>>>
>>> Dr. B,
>>>
>>> I think we should
>>> retroactively revoke Mr. Motekaitis' degree
>>> until
>>> he does some remedial work, and learns the difference between a
>>> nybble and a byte.
>>>
>>> Agreed?
>>>
>>> TJM
>>>
>>> Bronius Motekaitis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't mean to bring this
>>> up again (just read it and saw the
>>> datestamp of Apr 7, over a week old), but I hope you two have
>>> made up
>>> since then.. :O
>>>
>>> Another, less discussed
>>> fact, is that that of the fifth byte
>>> of any
>>> Java code: it always falls in the range of 00-FF.
>>>
>>> Ok, I'm potentially
>>> revealing a weakness in my practice (not my
>>> education, mind you, just a "man it's been a long time since I dealt
>>> in byte-code"), but isn't a byte = 8bits = 0-F, not 00-FF? Is
>>> this a
>>> difference in architecture that dictates this discrepancy? If so,
>>> could Burris' original post have said, "Depending on architecture,
>>> the first 4 to 8 bytes is.."
>>>
>>> -bronius
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/7/07, Dr. Tim McGuire
>>> <csc_tjm at shsu.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> The first four bytes in the header for Java class files are
>>> CA FE
>>> BA BE
>>>> in hexadecimal. There is an interesting connection between
>>> the café
>>> St.
>>>> Michael's Alley and the group the Grateful Dead. Note the
>>> first
>>> four
>>>> bytes spell "Café Babe." If you need help making the
>>> connection,
>>> speak
>>>> to Mr. Boyle.
>>>
>>> Glad to see, Dr. B., that
>>> you are actually progressing in
>>> your feeble
>>> attempts at making computer science relevant. First of all, you
>>> appropriate my void clint_eastwood(void); example. (Your
>>> modifications, unfortunately, diminished its value.) And now you're
>>> finally bringing up this example -- I've had my CS272 students
>>> convert the first four bytes of a Java class file into hex as an
>>> exercise for several years now (supplementing the previous exercise
>>> of converting 12, 5655, 2550276, 76545336, 3726755 from octal into
>>> hexadecimal.)
>>>
>>> Welcome to the 21st
>>> century.... ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> TJM
>>>
>>>
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