[Shacs] COBOL on a reputable, "modern" journal

Sean Duckett sduckett at shsu.edu
Thu Sep 18 09:22:53 CDT 2008


Your half-curried schemes will most certainly return bottom...

* Jonathan Hill <jonathan.f.hill at gmail.com> [2008-09-18 09:00:04 -0400]:

> And what of those languages with parentheses...and lambdas...and macros? Oh
> my!
> 
> On 9/17/08, Sean Duckett <sduckett at shsu.edu> wrote:
> >
> > It's "Perl", not "pearl", doc: Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister.
> >
> > (perl6 is interesting, btw :)
> >
> > * Burris, David <CSC_DSB at shsu.edu> [2008-09-17 16:22:53 -0500]:
> >
> >
> > > Laugh it up fuzz balls.  I/COBOL and Fortran will still be here when
> > pearls (not really a gem - come to think of it neither is gem), ASP (snakes
> > get stepped on), scripting languages (nothing really to say), PHP (drugs)
> > have been forgotten.
> > >
> > > Dr. B
> > >
> > > From: bronius motekaitis [mailto:bronius.motekaitis at gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:56 PM
> > > To: Bronius Motekaitis; Sean Duckett
> > > Cc: Burris, David; SHACS
> > > Subject: RE: [Shacs] COBOL on a reputable, "modern" journal
> > >
> > > Quote from the article:
> > > Dijkstra famously said, "the use of cobol cripples the mind; its teaching
> > should, therefore, be regarded as a criminal offense."
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: Bronius Motekaitis <bronius.motekaitis at gmail.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:29 PM
> > > To: Sean Duckett <sduckett at shsu.edu>
> > > Cc: Burris, David <CSC_DSB at shsu.edu>; SHACS <shacs at shsu.edu>
> > > Subject: Re: [Shacs] COBOL on a reputable, "modern" journal
> > > Haw!
> > > Pulling the analogy back to CS.. If one were ever stranded on an island
> > with a puny PC, he'll be up and running faster with a USB-contained
> > environment than the mammoths that COBOL once required.  .. that is, if the
> > ancient PC on-hand has USB support.
> > >
> > > hmm.. by "usb" I mean "usb pen drive" of course.  Funny how the interface
> > has become the medium..
> > >
> >
> > > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Sean Duckett <sduckett at shsu.edu<mailto:
> > sduckett at shsu.edu>> wrote:
> > > For Homo sapiens, it's been hard for neolithic toolsmiths.
> > > Flintknapping has slipped from 83% of all tools crafted worldwide to a
> > > miniscule 0.04%, with the tradition maintained by eye surgeons (obsidian
> > > blades damage the retina far less than the finest steel),
> > > anthropologists, and the keepers of tribal history.  I have yet to
> > > require flintknapping, though should I ever be stranded for more than a
> > > week in a remote, flintknapping would definately be on my to-do list.
> > >
> > > --smd.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > > * Burris, David <CSC_DSB at shsu.edu<mailto:CSC_DSB at shsu.edu>> [2008-09-16
> > 18:47:53 -0500]:
> >
> > >
> > > > The last few years have been hard for COBOL.  It has slipped from 78%
> > of all program written world wide in all languages to a paltry 70%.  Bronis
> > has not yet required COBOL so you may not need it either.  On campus,
> > student programming jobs generally require COBOL or that you be on drugs
> > (PHP).
> > > >
> > > > Dr. B
> > > >
> >
> > > > From: shacs-bounces at shsu.edu<mailto:shacs-bounces at shsu.edu> [mailto:
> > shacs-bounces at shsu.edu<mailto:shacs-bounces at shsu.edu>] On Behalf Of
> > Bronius Motekaitis
> >
> > > > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 10:52 PM
> > > > To: SHACS
> > > > Subject: [Shacs] COBOL on a reputable, modern journal
> > > >
> > > > Dr Burris-
> > > >
> > > > [cid:image001.jpg at 01C9182C.B6D9E250]<
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/foryou/2861741130/
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you sneak into the press room for a little prank here?
> > > >
> > > > (I haven't yet read the article, but thought you'd appreciate the cover
> > caption: "Is your next language COBOL?")
> > > >
> > > > -bronius
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > > --smd.
> > >
> > > "It is by the fortune of God that, in this country, we have three
> > >  benefits: freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and the wisdom never
> > >  to use either."
> > >                 -- Mark Twain
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> > --smd.
> >
> > "It is by the fortune of God that, in this country, we have three
> >   benefits: freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and the wisdom never
> >   to use either."
> >                  -- Mark Twain
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--smd.

"It is by the fortune of God that, in this country, we have three
 benefits: freedom of speech, freedom of thought, and the wisdom never
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